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Amongst the boom industries of recent years, involving mobile phones and sugary bacardi drinks and search engines are bailiffs. There are thousands of the bastards, sending out letters packed with language that once would have only been used in The Sweeney. But now you'll get letters saying "Dear dear dear - the last instalment of council tax was due on the ninth, and by my reckoning it's now the tenth. Tell you what, that hamster of your daughter's would fetch a couple of bob at the shampoo-testing plant. So you'd better pay up - and remember, you're a big man but you're out of shape. Alright. I said ALRIGHT!" And that's from someone like Saxmundham Parish Council.

So last week I received a letter from the good people of Iqor, a bailiffs employed by British Gas, in connection with a bill at my old address, and is the fourth such letter I've had SINCE THE BILL WAS PAID. I rang the number, as I did after all the other letters came, and went through that procedure where you have to administer your own chilling abuse, waiting for fifteen minutes and then navigating their instructions. With that technology at least they could give you the option of choosing your style of vindictiveness, so it could go "If you wish to be spoken to in the style of a surly bouncer, press one. If you wish to be addressed in icy monotone Kommandant, press two..."

The fact that I didn't live at the address, or that the bill was paid in full two months ago was all treated as if I was trying to wiggle out of my responsibilities on technicalities. They could only withdraw the threat to remove my goods if they were advised to by British Gas, they said. So - after a long long wait for British Gas to answer I was told the bill had indeed been paid, but they'd "requested" the bailiff stop the action, so if they were continuing with it "there's nothing else we can do." Maybe this is the method governments will use in future, when they want to have a war with a country but can't find a reason "We've looked at your records and realise you've not got any weapons of mass destruction but the trouble is we've already sent the army. We've requested them to stop but if they continue invading you there's really nothing else we can do."

So I ask to speak to the manager but he's not there but he will ring straight back - at the very most in an hour. I say I don't believe this and I'm told this is being extremely obstructive and unhelpful because "I've given you my word, Mister Steel." So the next morning I ring to ask why no one rang back, I'm left on hold for seventeen minutes, and altogether it takes me two hours to locate the bloke who was definitely ringing back, when he tells me he was on a training course, with no more hint of apology than the Queen would use if you got through to her and asked why she hadn't called you the previous evening.

The bailiffs "shouldn't" be writing me any more letters, he told me, but I suggested he should contact them again to make sure they didn't, and send me a letter confirming it, so I could present this to the bailiffs should they pop by. So then he got even frostier and slightly quieter, and I wondered whether he was going to say "Hmm, hmmmmm, you pay the bill, but you show me no respect. You ring me up but you don't even call me the Gasfather." Then he used lots of phrases like "I've already told you Mister Steel," and "That is not our procedure."

And through all of this, to one side was a copy of The Independent, the front page telling of British Gas enjoying record profits and record complaints all at once. Eventually my new friend told me he would send a letter that "Should get to you in four days," but he just couldn't - COULDN'T get it there any quicker.

I asked what he thought would be reasonable compensation and he said the absolute maximum they could pay out in any circumstances was fifty quid. So if they instal a faulty pipe in the Taj Mahal and blow the whole place up, when the Indian government rings up to complain they'll be told "Look, I've TOLD you Mr. Singh, fifty pounds is the most we can pay in any circumstances. Now that is the procedure, please refrain from being obstructive."

He's even sent an e-mail offering fifty quid, but it seems a bit inadequate to me. So what should I do? Do I accept the fifty quid, or get stroppy and insist on more. Whatever the final amount I'll send it to some charity or other, hopefully there's one called 'Help out Old Aged Pensioners Who've had their Gas Cut Off by those Shit-heads from British Gas', but as there might not be I'll make do with Age Concern.

So - it's up to you - vote for whether I should accept or reject the offer, by next Monday morning.

The banker has offered fifty quid - but what's it to be - deal or no deal?

Just post a comment saying 'deal' or 'no deal' and I'll await your verdict. Democrat primarys? THIS is the real thrilling vote of the year.
No deal.
Comment By Clair At 26/02/2008 12:41
No deal
Comment By Sosia At 26/02/2008 13:21
NO DEAL.
Comment By bob hoskins At 26/02/2008 14:00
DEAL - it's worth paying them fifty quid so you never have to deal with them again
Comment By jim jay At 26/02/2008 14:05
No Deal - It should be £50 for each time they contacted you after payment i.e. the bank's view of the customer
Comment By Loosehead At 26/02/2008 14:49
No Deal.

Bunch of lead swinging incompetent twats constantly giving mouth service instead of getting off their arses and actually doing the job properly.
Comment By almagill At 26/02/2008 15:46
No deal...but you'll have to have the patient of a saint to put up with the hassle they'll give you...anyway would Joe Strummer deal..I think not!
Comment By Anna At 26/02/2008 18:09
NO DEAL! Bailiffs are parasitic scum, make em squirm then take them to the fuckin' cleaners or greet them with an iron bar next time around
Comment By RadgieSteve At 26/02/2008 18:51
no deal, £50 for the inconvinience, £50 for the phone calls, £50 for the time and £500 for being twats
Comment By Chris At 27/02/2008 14:12
I mean patience of a saint...sorry
Comment By Anna At 27/02/2008 15:40
Seem to remember you having problems getting your own money from the Alliance and Leicester and writing something about it in the Independent. This time you could perhaps show BG the piece before you submitted it and ask them for a large donation to your chosen cause.
Alternatively, or as well, you could bet the £50 on Chrystal Palace beating Sheffield Wednesday - the odds must be very great. Finally you could donate it to the SWP for old times sake and to show you bear them no ill will!!!
Comment By Worldlywise At 27/02/2008 17:35
Yeah, brilliant idea, show 'em the article, hold out for more money, then get it printed anyway.
Comment By Noreedemingfeatures At 29/02/2008 01:53
Deal. Take the money. Run, run and never stop (running).
Comment By Dom At 29/02/2008 02:55
No deal
The time and stress deserves far more.
Especially when someone addresses you as:
Mr. <your surname>
That's always the mark of a total f**kwit and merits many multiples of 50 quid in its own right.
Comment By slippery giblets At 29/02/2008 23:24
I say no deal!

(& I did start to explain why but it's ended up just a bit too long to post as a comment so, just in case anyone wants to know what they are, I've posted my reasons here instead :-))
Comment By theinsomnianiac At 10/03/2008 14:23
Deal (initially at least)

Take the money. Then deny any record of receiving it.
Send a written demand. The return address should be a PO Box on an industrial estate in Essex.
If they ring leave them 'on hold' and play them 20 minutes of 'Magic Of the Musicals On Panpipes' then give them 6 options. Then put them on hold again.
Send a further 3 letters. Take the moral high ground.
Then remember - they sent you the money.
Comment By Steven Hunt At 11/03/2008 11:09
No Deal!

I was stung a couple of weeks ago by bailiffs for two grand! This was for an outstanding gas bill at my last flat. The man told me that because I had called him, I had 'activated' the account and the interest was going to sky-rocket. I used all my savings to pay it, then rang EDF Energy who helpfully told me they'd ballsed up. I am waiting for my refund but am also ready to fight the twats regarding what the bill should have been and whether or not I should have to pay it.
Comment By Joel Mellinger At 14/03/2008 01:34
Deal.
You'll give yourself heart problems if you keep dealing with creepy disembodied voices over the phone.
Comment By Sars At 05/04/2008 09:10
No Deal. I am having a dispute myself with British gas for £2400 for gas that was supplied to our address allegedly. Transpires they had the wrong MPRN and have written an apology and said they could offer £30 for cost of calls. £30 for 5 months of debt letters, stress, hours of phone calls and the worry my husband was feeling being in Iraq serving Queen and country wondering whether there would be forced entry made to the property. They are having a laugh and I think you should stand firm for more. £50 is an insult.
Comment By Sharon Forsyth At 08/04/2008 19:11
I know it's too late to vote. But I thought I'd comment anyway.
You should have done as I do every time I have similar problems with corporations. Which is quite often, actually.
I tell them I don't care because I've had enough. I promise them there is no more they can do to me because I'm suicidal anyway. They can send round the bailiffs, it matters not, material possessions mean nothing to me anymore. They'll find me dead upon arrival, if the flies haven't alerted the neighbours to my rotting corpse first.
Then I blame it all on them for hassling me and they usually take pity.
This well-rehearsed oscar performance has bought me a little time on a number of occasions.
But then, you didn't owe them did you? Oh to have money, it must be nice.
Comment By gary duncan At 02/06/2008 19:55
nice site. thanks.
Comment By saki At 20/07/2008 00:56
Hmm probably missed the Deal or No Deal bit at this late stage in the conversation...but still... Ive had so many problems with that Iqor mob I logged an official complaint myself with trading standards...harassing phonecalls, discussing my private information with people who arent me (I know because in my zeal to get rid of them one evening I pretended to be my flatmate..lol) and so on and so forth...these companies really are the absolute pits...and today, to show the worlds love of irony...I got offered a job...with Iqor...I turned it down, I dont want the b*stards knowing how much Im earning. :P

Scot
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Comment By Scott Jenkins At 06/08/2008 20:26
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